Saturday, April 10, 2010

Complications

        Let me start off by saying that these have been some of the wildest and craziest months I could possibly imagine. So many new things have happened; I'm really not sure where to begin. But I think I'll start by clearing up a couple of common questions and misunderstandings.

        The one question I get asked the most (other than “when are you going to release?”) is “what is greenpois0n?” Put simply, greenpois0n is a toolkit designed to help discover and exploit new vulnerabilities. Let me repeat that, greenpois0n itself is NOT an exploit. Most exploits typically have much more boring and technical names, such as “iBoot Environment Variable Overflow” or “usb_control_msg(0x21, 2)”. Tools, on the other hand, are typically given more creative names, like redsn0w, blackra1n, or greenpois0n. Even though most of these tools use the same exploits, each one has its own unique strengths and weaknesses. Redsn0w was designed to be robust and low maintenance by using Apple's own NOR flashing routines, whereas blackra1n was designed to be small, fast, and have a low memory footprint. While both these tools are excellent pieces of software, neither had the flexibility nor advanced capabilities that we were really looking for. Thus greenpois0n was born.

        While we do have a GUI designed to allow users to perform a simple jailbreaking, the true power is hidden away in our advanced exploit payload. Once injected into iBoot, greenpois0n inserts many new and powerful commands allowing you to do everything from accessing the AES engine to decrypt firmware keys, hook and call into existing iBoot functions, read and write to blockdevices, including the filesystem (although filesystem is read only right now), and even set breakpoints within iBoot to dump registers and stack information during runtime.

        So what about the exploit I mentioned in the last post? It's still there, and turns out it's the exact same exploit Geohot demonstrated in his iPod Touch 3g video a few weeks ago, but since that time, there have been quite a few new developments. By now, I'm sure everyone has seen or heard about the userland “spirit” exploit demonstrated by Comex, and which was used to jailbreak the first iPad. This exploit is by far one of the most impressive pieces of work I think this community has seen in quite some time. The only problem with this method of jailbreaking is it can be easily patched by Apple in the next firmware update. Also, since the exploit being used resides in userland, you're denied access to many of the low level hardware features, including the ability to decrypt firmware keys. iBoot exploits, on the other hand, are much lower level and offer much more freedom to interact directly with the system unrestricted. With the exploit being so much more powerful, we've decided it would be wiser to release the “spirit” exploit first and hold onto the iBoot exploit until the next hardware revision.

        Soon after this decision, I quickly set to work porting “spirit” to run on Linux and adding these capabilities into greenpois0n. At the same time, Comex, a number of members from iPhone Dev Team, and Chronic-Dev Team helped by fixing many possible snags and getting Cydia prepared to run on the iPad. It was truly an epic display of cooperation by everyone involved. Everything was progressing smoothly until yesterday. The boy-wonder Geohot threw a wrench in our gears once again after discovering a NEW exploit that pretty much blows everything we've got out of the water. So now we're forced to reconsider our release plans once again. As of today (I can't speak for tomorrow, for all I know everything could change again), both the original exploit I posted about earlier and the new “spirit” exploit are probably going to be held off for a little bit longer to avoid being patched by Apple. Also, today I mentioned on my twitter that I can almost guarantee an exploit for 3.1.3/3.2 (all devices, and all models!) before the end of the month. I would strongly advise everyone to keep a close eye on Geohot's blog for updates in the near future. And if you haven't already, PLEASE backup your SHSHs with either firmware umbrella or using Saurik method.

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        To all the people asking about an unlock, you're probably going to be waiting until the next iPhone is released. Since it hasn't even been announced yet, there's no telling how long the wait is going to be.

110 comments:

  1. Is it at all possible to downgrade a new 3GS from 4.0 beta
    To 3.1.3? Any help is appreciated.

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  2. Still waiting for proof that you're not just ripping people off. Release some source code.

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  3. Wow! End of month!!! Can't wait until untethered jailbreak for 3GS. Also how do I backup SHSH in Cydia. I didn't get a pop up. Thanks!

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  4. Thanks for making some things clear, especially the release till the end of the month is intersting.

    But I have another Question, do you know if theres work on an unlock for baseband 05.12?

    The thing is got scammed because i bought a used iPhone 3G and the seller said its unlocked but it's not. And i just wanna now if i can unlock it in the future or if I should resell it.
    I don't want it to be released, I just wanna know if there's hope.

    Thanks

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  5. @Jim - No. Why in the world would you update?!?

    @Wes - did you not read the post

    @Alex - there should be a "Make my life easier" button somewhere in cydia. If you've clicked it before, then you don't need to click it again.

    Posixninja, great post. Hopefully this will get people off your back :)

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  6. Thanks! Very informative! You are skilled mate!

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  7. @jim if you have shsh blob for 3.1.3 saved in cydia, a simple restore in itunes would do.

    @josh thanks for clearing everything

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  8. Thanks for the update, cleared a lot of things up for me. I can't wait to see what's going to happen next. I've been following greenpois0n and your work for a while now, things are all coming together! Keep up the good work and thanks for taking the time to fill us all in.

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  9. Josh,
    Very glad to hear an update from you about everything. I thought that maybe Geo had just tested his exploit on the iPad and it worked as well, I didn't realize he had found a second one. I hope to see a greenpois0n in the future (near or far) that allows for advanced features. I hope that all goes well for you guys, maybe even a day-of-release iPhone 4G untethered jailbreak?

    Nonethe less, great job guys.

    "But I have another Question, do you know if theres work on an unlock for baseband 05.12?"
    There is an unlock for the baseband, it's just being preserved for a while. It'll probably be released when 4.0 comes out, in hopes that the baseband for 4.0 has the same flaws.

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  10. For anyone that may be having any doubts about the validity of these claims, I can gladly say that I've seen greenposi0n in action on an ipt3g, and the "spirit" jailbreak in linux. (Posixninja jailbroke my iPad). They are both masterpieces in hacking, but the timing has unfortunately turned out so that a release would be a bad move on the part of the jailbreakers.

    Here's a pic :) http://www.multifl0w.com/ipadjailbreak.jpg

    Keep up the good work!

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  11. Thanks Cole for the information.

    A bunch of idiots on the Dev Teams blog already updated to iPhone OS4 Beta and said there is a new baseband 05.13.03. So, I'm not fully into it because my codings skills are not greater than coding a Hello World programm but if Apple fixed the exploit which is used by the 05.12 unlock which is currently being held back, the Dev Team could release the 05.12 unlock right now because the exploit is already burned. Am i right?

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  12. YOU GUYS ARE THE THE BEST. YOU GUYS GOT MY IPHONE AND IPAD. APPLE I AM NOT WALKING WITH YOU.

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  13. Again, if this is true, it's exactly why I think dev teams should just release new jailbreaks as they're available. Where there's a will, there's a way. There's no fun in holding an exploit hostage for half a year.

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  14. Got my 3GS downgraded using irecovery. Thanks for the replies!

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  15. Greenpoison is like a iphone os cracking kit, with tools like dissasemblers? Am I totally wrong? :S sorry xD ^^'

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  16. Sweet, still on 3.1.2 unlocked 3GS
    :) 3.1.3 = shit
    Keep up with the good work and take your time.
    Hope for the next gen iphone kicks ass!

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  17. @lennart: Geohot has unlocked it I believe but hasn't released it yet. When 4.0 is out properly I think he will.
    @wes: How can someone giving something for FREE be ripping anyone off? You are a douche bag.

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  19. how did geohot affected ur work??like how he's in the way of u guys releasing jb??
    and there ll always be one way or another to unlcok & jb..if u hold back an exploit or unlock its ur weakness..there is no foolproof programming tht apple can do..
    but then again i wont blame u guys for playing easy..

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  20. GeoGod!!!!! should be his new nicknme

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  21. Used pwnage 3.1.5 to jailbreak my 3gs with 3.1.3 upgrade (firmware 05.12.01)but failed. Did i miss something.....

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  22. Wat oll this shit and no release you fuck you
    take mony froom pipul for wat war is your video war is your release you muther fucker i give to your mma hill to suck mi dick you bitch only to talk you now give mi your mma or your sister to god fuck and i forgive you about my donate

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  23. Here is someth i do not understand:
    - What has geohot new exploit has to do with not releasing spirit?

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  24. So you have 3 different exploits ?! yours and geohots, Spirit and Geohots new one. nice work guys cant wait till the end of the month keep the good work up though im sure apple will work on these exploits as soon as there released.

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  25. one question though why not release spirit, i know it will be patched quickly, but it will give Geohot time to work on his new exploit, and im pretty sure apple wont patch it and release a new firmware seeing as the iphone 4.0 os firmware is only months away so there wouldnt be any point in apple releasing two firmware updates in 2 months?

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  26. Dear p0sixninja,

    I live in switzerland and I bought Apple Iphone 3GS 3.1.3 firmware with 05.12.01 baseband. I can't understand what you mean by exploit. Is this exploit jailbreak and Unlock my iphone. Also in your last para you mentioned that unlock will be avail after next iphone release. So, there is no way for me to use my iphone now. I bought for 600$ in ebay. If it's not possible for me to unlock after your exploit release, I planned to sell this. please help me. Is this possible to unlock this after your exploit release ?

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  27. @Angie
    I just bought this iPhone. It's a 3GS on 3.1.2 with the new BootROM so it has a tethered jailbreak. I don't see the text on the top
    of the Cydia home page on my iPhone saying it's got my SHSH for 3.1.3. What can I do? I really want to back it up. Thanks!

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  30. Wes, these people are well-known iPhone hackers. They don't have to prove shit to you.

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  31. @alex

    plz click on " make my life easier" at cydia home page on ur iphone

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  32. Dear p0sixninja
    my one day old iphone 3gs new bootrom crashed it was on 3.1.2
    and got stucked at recovery mode
    as i got no way around i updated to 3.1.3 but managed to retain my baseband at 05.11.07 as i need an unlock to use phone. now the question will i be able to use blacksn0w to unlock when new jb is released ??

    http://picasaweb.google.com/rajanbhatia/Iph0nw#5457006054848917986 this is a screenshot of the f0recast of concerned iphone

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  33. THIS IS VERY STUPID OF YOU TOO
    guys, people are stuck with 5.12.01 and still no unlock solution for them... if you are against the monopoly (of apple) don't be a monopoly yourself.. pls don't just blame people that have upgraded their phones to a newer fw. there are too many reasons for upgrading the fw if they don't know anything about the relationship between upgrading-unlocking.

    everybody knows that you have a solution for unlocking 5.12.01.
    if you believe in your team, you should release it.
    if you believe in your team, you should not just wait for apple's decisions of unveiling new iphones.
    if you believe in your team, you should try to find new unlock solutions after each upgrade.
    if i were a CS it would be a puzzle for me to try to find an unlock solution... isn't it the same for you?
    so what if they release iphone os 4.1, 5.0..... x.x.. after you release the unlock. what will happen then? you should know that somebody will take your place and it will be too late for you to regret your past decisions..

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  34. discovering a NEW exploit that pretty much blows everything we've got out of the water.

    what do mean? is there something special about the new exploit.

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  35. 90% of people need the unlock more than the JB... Why cant you understand that...

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  36. Really thanks Josh for releasing such insight information about the jailbreak and unlock process to the community
    However many questions arise now:
    - Do you mean Geohot will release the JB ?
    - Are you now using his exploit ?
    - What makes you think he won't release an unlock ?

    - Do the exploits remain in 4.0/05.13.03 ? if not why not release the jbs now ?

    - jailbreak is nice in terms of adding functionality but unlock is key to tens of million of iPhone users worldwide

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  37. Yeah Angie, I did read the post. But here's the thing, anybody could write a post and ask for donations. I've yet to see anything actually come from these guys as I have from the Dev-Team or Geohot. I'm not asking him to release an exploit (because that would make no sense), but to at least prove he's built this toolkit as he claims. Neither George, the Dev-Team, or Chronic have spoken about these things and I think it's fair to remain skeptical.

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  38. I was begining to feel that greenpois0n was vapourware because it has been perpetually delayed. What if when the new iPhone comes out, you guys hold off AGAIN on a release because the iPad still has to get its 4.0 update after the new iPhone 3G/4G is released in the summer? To me, you guys talk a lot and the only people that have been consistent with their findings and not hiding behind blogs that turn comments off are GeoHot and the iPhone Dev team. Hey, I'm all for progress but until now we haven't seen a video demonstration only alleged 'screenshots.' I'm sorry that I don't have the god given abilities these geniuses do but I appreciate their work and I help the many that I can and I make my contributions, no matter how small they be. I know to stay away from updates, especially ones from Apple and not to bother devs with silly questions and stuff. I live in the caribbean and I NEED to be jailbroken and unlocked to enjoy the product because there is no official Apple partner carrier here.
    Show us something. The last time we heard from you guys was when you all found an exploit for 2.2.1 and Planetbeing developed it into redsnow after it was just a echelon like patch for elite hackers- that was over a year ago. I'm not asking for a release. I don't know if you're understanding my stance. It's been nothing but words and blogs and claims... In that time how many OS updates have we had? And how many exploits have the community developed into tools? How many teaser videos have we had by Geohot? By the iPhone Dev Team? How many proof of concept videos have we had by the chronicDevTeam?
    Anyways, if/when greenpois0n does get released, you'll have made me eat my words and I'll be humbled by it.

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  39. @jim YES you can revert back to 3.1.3 from 4.0 dunno why people still say you cant...
    after update put your phone into fdu mode and select 3.1.3 firmware...let it do its thing then it will come up with error 1015 or something like that...then run blackra1n..this will make ur screen go blank leave it like that for 30 seconds then hold down power to turn it off plug into ur computer and turn it bk on...and ur now bk on 3.1.3 :)

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  40. Dude You Have Been Saying You Found A Jailbreak For Years But I Have Never Seen One Make It And Prove Me Wrong

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  41. @Degyuldemsugar
    Hey,bro,I agree with you 100%.This is how I solved this dilemma on my own way:Instead of keeping the 3Gs,I sold it,and got a new 3G (MB model.)It's untethered,never 'froze'up on me,and awesome.
    I like it,because it can be always jailbroken and unlocked with the presently available tools,no matter what happens.To you,3Gs owners,wish you the BEST with your devices in the upcoming months...:-)

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  42. Dear Dev team,

    I live in switzerland, without knowing that I can't use the apple phone in swiss. I just bought from ebay and even the seller didnt say me anything. Really I am not aware of these things about jailbreak or unlock. I thought that after I get my apple phone I can use as by my wish. I am a student and just saved 600$ to buy this phone. I bought on february but till now I am just keeping it my cupboard. I don't know whether you understand our situation. I am eager to use apple products but unfortunatley im strucked. I dont want jailbreak just allow me to use my phone that's enough. I dont know when you will understand. Always there is a way to find some solutions for newer version in future. I am not genius to find it but you have that ability so expecting from you. Please release unlock solution rather than jailbreak.

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  43. But means that IN FACT, that George will release a JB/ new Version of Blackra1n before/ at 30th of april?

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  44. please unlock it too
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  46. I´m new into Iphones.I´ll wait until the end of April,if theres not Jb for new 3gs,i´ll sell it.Iphone is an impressive device but without JB is pure crap. Good luck
    P0sixninja, we have faith on you.Best regards-

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  47. I have to agree with everyone else... Saving the jailbreak for yourself and waiting until the next patch, firmware, update, or device comes out; that sounds like a dick.

    No matter when you release a jailbreak or update, Apple is always going to find a patch for it. Doesn't matter if it's tomorrow or 10 years from now. It's a constant game of cat and mouse. So do us all a favor and keep the ball rollin'. Because nobody likes the idea that you (or your little community of hackers) has a jailbreak/unlock but won't share it. Remember, people are making donations to help your work. What about them? Keep on teasin us with this BS of only picures, vdeos, or blogs and people are only going to get tired of it and lose faith. So do us all a favor and (if you really care about about the community or its fans) share. Isn't that what your mother taught you when you were young?

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  49. @JapanHillBilly Try to not be a selfish prick please. Try thinking of other people sometimes.

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  50. I thought that every new firmware released from Apple is a chalange for you guys. Why wait for new one and miss all the excitement with finding new "better" jb/ul?

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  51. In all reality, I am not trying to be a prick. I'm only stating the facts. Read a couple of the comments and you'll see where I'm coming from. But honestly, I should also say thanks to you, because even though the jailbreak is taking some time, you've been up front with everyone to let us know the status. I do appreciate that. Thank you.

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  52. Wow! Some of you people are really rude ungrateful. All these guys have worked extremely hard to give us UL/JBs in the past. If you bought an iPhone, you knew that it was a fairly locked down device. I, myself, chose the iPhone because I "knew" I could Jailbreak it. I even knew about the 3.1.3 upgrade issue, so I tried not to upgrade. In the end I had to upgrade to 3.1.3 because I was trying to be "clever". I could easily have bought a BlackBerry or HTC, but I believe in the community of these hackers. You guys can't just expect/demand the guys to release stuff whenever you want it. They all have reasons for not releasing now. What if there isn't another exploit? What if it takes another 4-6 months to release something else if these get patched? We need to be patient. Rather wait till end of April for these exploits. I would even wait till FW4.0 if it means an untethered JB. If you want a fully locked iPhone, get one like mine, in South Africa. All phones are unlocked by law. While I'm waiting, I have PAID for my TomTom software. I even loaded up credit on my iTunes account. Not all things in life are free. You can't just demand things and expect to be given them straight away. I'm sure we are all adults and can show some patience and gratitude towards these guys. They work hard so that you can use a device that you KNEW was locked. If you don't like it, then sell your iPhone. Get a WinMo device, you hack the sh!t out of those.

    Just don't be putting these guys down. Buy them a beer and sit back. They will release it when it is ready. Don't waste an exploit when a major release is just around the corner. Patience! Patience! Patience! You will get what you so eagerly demand. Maybe help these guys out? Send them your bricked iDevice. Maybe they can use it to find work-arounds etc. Also, remember, it is their intellectual property, they are the ones working on it. You are not, you are just sitting there demanding it! They don't have to release it, but they will. That is what the hacker community is all about. We share and share alike.

    If you can't be patient, then unfortunately you have chosen the wrong hobby. Take up rowing if you want instant gratification.......

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  53. First and foremost good shit man, yalls hacking inspires me greatly. I hack the crap out of WinCE code etc lol but im just getting into Iphone OS. My question I pose to you is what is the holdoff on waiting until the iPad 3G is released, theoretically those units are already being packaged and flashed with 3.2 right now as we speak. If the rumored release date of the 23rd is true then Apple must start production on the 3G model and have those cranking out to meet demand therefore they wont unbox all of those unit etc just to flash a new OS to patch an exploit that is only going to be used by a select few of its millions of users.
    -CFay

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  54. Awsome work guys, can't wait for jb. Haven't had a jail broken device since 1.1.1, last device 1st gen was stolen.just purchased my new 3rd gen ipt Jan 14, from income tax had to wait a long time due to tough times. I guess I've waited the longest lol for jb, mine was allready flashed with 3.1.3.and I can wait even longer. I understand y'all have your reasons for waiting and I respect that to the fullest. Won't give y'all any crap at all. I must be a true fan.and I do enjoy y'all posting new news all the time. That's enough excitment to me allready. If y'all have any real release dates; could you poisixninja, or someone from the team @mail me at "Daveshangout127". I don't expect you or y'all to @mail me back,but I figure I'd just blow that one out there lolz. Many tnx to all team members. Wish the best for y'all......Cheers

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  55. I totally agree with bob the builder...

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  56. I would like to add into this whole JB thing that I've been wanting an iPod for quite sometime now but haven't been able to afford it until just a few weeks ago. I was given a iPod Touch 3rd Gen as a gift and it came with 3.1.3 stock. So I think it's only fair that people lay off with the "you should research your stuff before buying something and complaining about not being able to JB it" Some people aren't spoiled or are showered with money (which would be nice) so they can't get the Jailbreakable devices right away. So I would love for any type of downgrade option for my firmware or just a new jailbreak for 3.1.3. I've been following geohot and the dev team for quite some time now and they're good at what they do so be grateful and leave out the smart snoody remarks towards those not as fortunate as the rest to have a jailbroken idevice.

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  57. Also, I've backed my shsh blobs via "Umbrella" and ecid, don't know why I would back up my ecid, but fuck it ;).I'm ready for anything. I will back up each fw that I have to, don't want to end up apple slave forever lol. Once jbroken I will never go back to jail, nore collect 200 dollars, lmao rofl. Tnx again guys for your accomplishments......Cheers

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  58. 1 more thing, I advise all who are waiting for jb/unlock & are mc model, late model 3g iPhone,3gs iPhone, & 3g ipt (iPod Touch), "BACK YOUR SHSH BLOBS" or apple will pistol pump you in the ass later!!!! Don't wait, "DO IT NOW" or wait and join the rest of the ppl later that are waiting for jb/unlock. Later u can Cydia your shsh. And be safe, but just to lock and key your guarantee for reversable jb/unlock or downgrade your fw via "offline" Google "backing up shsh blobs" there you will find some sufficient information in the first phew sites (tutorials). Good luck fellas......and like I was going to say Google is you friend too don't let him down ;).......Cheers too all who is wise

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  59. Why are people still crying for these guys to release their tools prematurely?

    When Apple immediately patch the hole these guys found before we have a chance to use it on a worthwhile firmware/baseband how does that benefit those of us who were careful enough not to "accidentally" update, or plain dumb enough to go out and buy a phone they new wouldn't work to their wishes?

    Ignore these selfish, unintelligent bozo's and carry on the good work :)

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  60. You guys are suckers, this punk has been sitting on this vaporware for months. He milks you out of money for hardware and has yet to produce crap. He tweets Geohot just so he can look like he is a true player in this cat & mouse game. SO put up or shut up, please omg.

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  61. Ok I am kinda new to jailbreaking and been reading around. I have an iPhone 3Gs and didn't know the wonders of jailbreaking and updated to 3.1.3 yeah...
    I've tried downgrading with no success because I'm pretty sure apple patched it to make it where you can't...

    The only thing I can think of is (backing it up) restoring it (I'm not sure is it changes the firmware, but it should or that wouldn't make any sense) jailbreak whatever version is on there. Back up the SHSH.

    Then restore to the back up settings which is 3.1.3 and then do whatever it is with the SHSH you do, lol.

    Any holes in this system? (Most likely, lol)

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  62. @Harold!!! The shsh blobs are the set of unique hash keys for your device, & what shsh blobs you get from the "Umbrella" program using your "Ecid"(exclusive chip Id) this is a number for your device only!!!! Kinda like dog tags.anyways putting that into the umbrella program, and from the device version your device + fw version.choose from the shsh repository:apple.(the mother land of all bitch's),click submit. You will get a file(your shsh) look something like"4667864334528-ipt-3g-3.1.3.shsh" file size around 67kb ish.store that somewhere safe u just might need it latter!*Note this shsh ONLY works on that device*"nomas" I'm tired of talking go read the tutorials I posted earlier.....cheers

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  63. i got a new iphone 3gs which came with a 3.1.3 firmwere when i got it and when i try to downgrade it, it gives me an error saying my iphone isnt eligily to restore fo this build or something like that. so i cannot jailbreak it cause its go tthe new bootrom as its new :(

    so i now have to wait for a 3.1.3 jailbreak which might take months

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  64. Correct @Bulto,Apple servers stoped signing that fw when 3.1.3 launched & maybe not "months" perhaps the end of April ;P

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  65. the new blackra1n will also unlock(aka can i use it with another sim that is not att) or just JB???

    Thanks!!!

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  66. Anyone who is ranting at these guys to release are complete retards. Calling them names is hardly going to make them release faster, and unlike you, they have /tactics/.

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  67. @Dark Witch I'm not sure of your question, are you asking If the new jb will come with an unlock for the Iphones baseband, if so then yes you can use multiple sims from different carriers.example:America~At&t,T-Mobile,SunComWireless(puerto rico)><Germany~T-Mobile,Cu3Ball,E-Plus,Vodafone etc.....

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  68. Keep it up guys! In my opinion, waiting just a little while longer is a good decision. I, myself, am not a hacker, so I have little perspective regarding the difficulty of finding these exploits or how valuable a given novel exploit is, but I know it mist be a function of how much time is involved in finding them. Because I have a life outside of my iPhone (apparently unlike some of the more impatient around here) I'd much rather wait and have the added benefits of a jailbroken 4.0 OS than settle immediately for a 3.1.3 release and possibly not be able to update to 4.0 when it comes out. By the same token, please understand that my donation will not be made until I have been able to personally apply a stable version of your firmware. Nice work and good luck!

    MG

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  69. i have a question... my phone is completely dead (3.1.2, with jailbreak and unlocked) and i need to have it replaced from apple. in terms of what i can buy today, which models can still be unlocked with the currently available tools? should i not buy a 3gs? or are all new phones useless because they come with the new baseband??

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  70. posix - how do you put up with some of these comments? omfg some of you people really need to sell your iPhones and NEVER EVER return.

    1. It is not all about you - Stop whining about your FML stories. No one cares and nothing you say makes you more important than anyone else.

    2. Greenpois0n is not vaporware. I've seen some of the source for it. It exists. Even if they did release it - most of you wouldn't have any clue what to do with it anyway so stop with the friggen whining.

    3. Last I checked Chronic Dev Team doesn't do unlocks. Chronic deals with Jailbreaking.

    Get. a. fkn. clue. people.

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  71. @Cr8zy thank you very much for reply and yes thats exacly what i mean if i can use my iphone in another country and it will work as phone not as an ipod.

    Thanks

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  72. Ohhh! I can't wait for it to come out! :)

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  74. You guys are complete studs. Not only are you releasing some really powerful stuff to the community but you are educating-communicating what you are doing to boot.

    I am on 3.1.3 and 05.12.01 - so I am shit out of luck - but am eagerly awaiting you guys to do what you do, when you think it is right.

    Been fun reading your posts...

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  75. @ Ela

    You are going to have to wait atleast three more months to have a definitive jailbreak or unlock solution from the Dev Team. Join the gang :)

    I understand your situation. Since you are just keeping it in your cupboard, you'd rather try to find an official SIM and at least activate your phone in iTunes so you can use all other features except calling and messaging.

    Try to find your model number (of the form MCxxx/A, can be found on box) and search google for a list of model numbers by country. That will tell you which country your phone is locked to. Then search on eBay for a SIM card of the operators of that country (if more than one operator in that country, just buy one of each). Insert the SIM and activate your phone in iTunes.

    Many countries such as UK (operators O2 and Orange) allow official unlocking for a fee of 15-20 UK pounds. If it turns out your phone is from UK, great luck :)

    If not, you can activate in any case as long as you can get a SIM on eBay (or ask someone in that country to send you one).

    I love your country by the way - hope to visit sometime.

    Regards and again, just wait a while and a trustworthy JB/unlock will be out soon.

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  76. Hey guys, I'm back & I would like to note that *I don't work for the dev team*. But love to help people out with questions, & won't Hesitate to answer/reply ;).@The firmware umbrella, in your 3erd statement, if you think I was talking about chronic dev team about the unlock, I WAS NOT.I was replying to dark witch about the "black ra1n" witch in fact was writin by Geohot. Has nothing to do with greenpoison, "no offence posixninja" so I hope you were not relaying that remark on me, I'm to smart for that shit ;P.

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  77. @nishan, your best bet is to find a 3g model iPhone, either eBay,Beezid,pwn store.....haaaahhhaa lol,pwned.anyways if you get a 3g(not 3gs) you'll always be able to downgrade without requiring an apple server verification,& shsh. Chances are some day devs will run into a brick wall, and will not be able to continue the jb :/ + there are only a small hand full of exploits left! We the clients have to be "PATIENT" and when the time is right, geohot will release the jb/unlock.......Cheers

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  78. @Cr8zy, thanks. it looks like apple does still sell the 3g model directly:

    http://www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3g/

    so i can definitely downgrade this and jailbreak / unlock?

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  79. yo, i got few quistions about ur upcoming jailbreak
    1) will it work on my iphone 3gs 3.1.3 (original firwere i didnt update!) and its got newest bootroom mc as i only got it a week ago :P
    2) will is work on the upcoming 4.0 firmwere?
    3) will it also unlock my phone?

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  80. Oh... OK, YOU DID IT AGAIN !!!
    "Bad mental image dude" is YOU, POSIXNINJA.
    Now, nobody believe what you say.

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  81. if i have iphone 3gs 32 GB and in mistake ihave update to 3.1.3 there is anyway now or in the future to jailbreak?
    or even to updtaye to the next firmware and to jailbreak?
    i will be really thankfull for your answers

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  83. I have a ipod touch 3g 32 gb with factory 3.1.3.
    IF it really comes out free and all : I LOVE YOU!!!
    And if it fails to work or you are scaming then I HATE YOU!!!!!!!
    But please realse

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  84. Ok so their will be an iPad jailbreak by the end of the month right and I don't have to wait for the 4g iPhone Right?????

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  85. you can see that your fans are starting to leave you becouse now there is not many people blogging in this page and none has posted anything on twitter for a while. you need to relese somthing or everyone will just give up hope.

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  86. @asaf,
    Question 1; have u had your iphone jb before with 3.1.2?
    Answer; Yes i have, and mistakingly updated

    Question 2; so did u touch the icon "make my life easier" in the cydia start screen?
    Answer; A:YES I DID!
    B:NO I DIDN'T!
    ***if you choose (A) then yes you can downgrade using some tutoring, Google "Downgrade from 3.1.3 to 3.1.2 using Saurik's server" OR Youtube it great tutorials :)***
    ***if you choose (B) then Sorry just have to wait like all us sad helpless ppl :(***

    *NOTE GEOHOT PLAN'S ON JB 4.0 AND RELEASING SOON* HOW SOON? WHO KNOWS? BUT HE'S NOT RELEASING FOR THE BETA 4.0!

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  87. Hapy birthay israel And i hope now posixninja will release the jb for real

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  88. is what thirstra1n true
    will it take another 3 months for them to relese it

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  89. @ posixninja
    i read this :
    http://www.redmondpie.com/jailbreak-iphone-3.1.3-3.2-ipad-ipod-touch-untethered-9140638/

    is it real?
    do you release a jb/ul at the end of april??

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  90. Fact: nothing yet, dont bother...It Will come out when they want...or can...control+d for now and come back at the end of the month.

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  91. Thunderst0rm=fail
    greenpois0n=hope?

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  92. Were approaching the end of the month.. And iPad 3G hits the store shelves in a few days. Something has to be released soon.... hopefully

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  93. HUMMM 04/26 and still no flying cars, no tele transportation and no JB and unlock for the 3.1.3... I actually got tired of all this and buy a factory Unlock Iphone...BUT are a lot of SW that can be used from Cydia that is important.

    Dude, keep the good work, at the end nobody are paying you for this.if you come out with something, great, if not, some day you will do it... keep trying... and for all the people wit negative comments... GET A LIFE. or pay and buy and unlock phone or just WAIT!!!

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  94. Hm the problem of most people is the same like u, i think the number of unlocks is smaller than numer of jailbreaks.

    I´ve a factory unlocked iphone too, but want the jailbreak only for one thing... the lockscreen application :) then my fones perfect.

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  95. Hey so posixninja sad by end of the month hi release it soo???

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  96. @Tom - yes, no unlock for another 2 months or so. Likely after WWDC (June) when the new iPhone is announced and fw 4.0 is released to public. Neither dev team nor geohot are coming out with a jailbreak for now.

    Comex might release the Spirit jailbreak on April 30 (Friday), speculation from his tweets. See his page on twitter.

    To keep track and stay in touch with all those stuck on 3.1.3, and explore other options to get your phone working, please check out (and fan!) http://www.facebook.com/pages/thirst4ra1n/114046008620837

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  97. Just bought my 16gb 3gs and the rumor about Comex releasing his J/B tomorrow is like music to my ears. Since I just got locked into contract I don't need the Unlock right now. Got my fingers crossed.

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  98. hey fucking ass u lie to all of us
    go to the fuck'n hell asshole mother fucker

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  99. Manak, there is a few day delay so that iPad 3G users can get their SHSH files backed up.

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  100. @sammydeea Hehe i only put mine in DFU mode and restored it. Nothing more nothing less. But i had some trouble getting it to start tho, the downgrade...
    But i just tried and tried until it worked!

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  101. Hi! I have an ipod touch 3g running firmware 3.1.1 untouched.
    I've been looking around how to jailbreak it, but I didn't find anything, since all the tools require firmware 3.1.2 or 3.1.3. Is there a way with your tools to upgrade to one of those firmwares now? (apple doesn't allow it anymore)
    Thanks!

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  102. So will this update work for mc ipods?

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